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Originally posted by Shinmen Takezo:

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Even when the assassination is caught in full, horrifying detail on video and then they follow a trail of evidence from the place where people saw the shooter to the hidden rifle, and then the shooter, who happens to be a tranny-fucking weirdo, confesses all over text messages and turns himself in, it still has to be a conspiracy.

I didn't say he wasn't involved. He confesed something to his father and Mormon Bishop, but did he say he pulled the trigger. He is not cooperating with the investigators. Initially I thought Tyler was alone--and was possibly wrong about him wearing body armor.

This blood pouring out of Kirk's neck seems like an exit wound with this clearer video that's out now. And Tyler jumping off the roof without a rifle--and they said it was broken down. I am leaning towards Tyler being an Oswald and involved this way. Could be wrong though--they may have the bullet and matched it to the Mauser.

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And they say they have the screwdriver that he used to break the rifle down.

With a sporterized Mauser like that, where you don't have the barrel bands to contend with, there's only two screws to take out to separate the barreled action from the stock. If he had practiced that at all he could've done it in about a minute, maybe less.

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Originally posted by Shinmen Takezo:

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And they say they have the screwdriver that he used to break the rifle down.

With a sporterized Mauser like that, where you don't have the barrel bands to contend with, there's only two screws to take out to separate the barreled action from the stock. If he had practiced that at all he could've done it in about a minute, maybe less.

FYI--I have the exact same setup Tyler had, but without top mounted scope rings and scope. There are two screws that hold the bottom plate, mag-spring and follower and trigger guard onto the stock. They could be screwed together and unscrewed. it doesn't take a special screw driver to take it apart--but Mauser screws are not regular screws. You should be using a gunsmithing screw driver that has flared gripping blades (optimal) but you can use a regular screw driver as well.

The action, bolt and barrel are on the top section and could be broken down and reassembled--and with a 142 yard shot, with a scope pre-zeroed taking it apart and together again is not going to throw it off that much. Taking off the scope and unscrewing the barrel (if you could that is--takes special tools) yes, absolutely.

But still broken down you have a 30 inch package you have to conceal. He did this atop the roof after the shot? Now how much time did he spend in the bushes putting it all back together again? if it were broken down into a backpack, why didn't he just keep it inside and walk back to his car? And did he break the rifle down atop the roof or after he jumped down?

I wonder where this Mauser originated from. German. Polish. Bruno (Chech), Turkey? There's lots of places they were made under licensing. Or if it was a civilian model--actually made by Mauser itself.

As for the loads (ammo) used we can only speculate until they release more information.

My 30-06 Mauser is Polish with a precision peep sight adapted to the receiver instead of a scope. I also do a lot of precision reloading for .308 175 grain Hornady XMatch moly-coated. And .308 is nearly identical ballistically to 30-06. except the case is shorter.

It's all very hinky.

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I didn't know there was any conjecture about a "dud round". What's that about?

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I didn't know there was any conjecture about a "dud round". What's that about?

Supposedly the surgeon who examined Kirk's body at the ER told Erika that there was no exit wound, and that the bullet (or fragments thereof) were visible under the skin on the back of his neck. Kirk's cervical spine was destroyed by the round, but I think we all agree that a 30.06 can easily pass through flesh and a little bit of articulated bone and leave one hell of an exit wound. So, no exit wound, and this is what has fired off discussion in the shooter community over on the clock app and X.

My thought was either an underloaded or dud round. I load my own hand gun ammo, and yes, I know you are shocked, but I occasionally spit out a few duds, usually due to bad primers. It happens.

Like everyone, I am waiting on some kind of official report, which I think is forthcoming, but may end up being a fairy tale.

Keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out.