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Originally posted by MAXIMUS PANDAMONIUS:
If Trump bombs Iran,Iran will retaliate. How?
I don't want to speculate on a public forum.

aww, go ahead and speculate. Just as long as you don't mention Lardass's name.

Oh, and FTG.

Carry on.

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Originally posted by itsme:
FWIW,YMMV, blah, blah, blah...

This morning we had quite a bit of off the radar/ADSB aircraft over us, high and fast, even an F15. This is unusual for us. I'm an aviation buff so I know, for the most part, what I'm looking at and since we're flyover country I get views of alot of planes, all that and I have a paid subscription to FlightRadar24, so I recognize out of pattern flights and we've had a few lately.

The 3 high and fast, off the radar corporate type jets, all within minutes of each other, then the F15 and a couple of days ago the B-52 and KC-135's.

Different for sure.

Mean anything? No idea but with current events it makes one wonder what may be up.

So, I live about 20 miles south of Luke AFB, which is primarily a training and support base. We get flyovers all the time, especially when the general is on base ;-) Luke certifies pilots from all over the world in F-22 operations.

Interestingly, there have been no training flights out of Luke in the last 72 hours. There has been a number of c-17s in and out, but no other jet traffic.

Hersh's insiders are telling him the ball will drop this weekend with Iran using US forces At that point, Hormuz will be slammed shut. And for that one particular fuk-nut who thinks that B52' are the solution to everything... the cliffs and mountains on the Iranian side of Hormuz are like one 40 mile (or more) Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima, laced with dug in anti-shipping missile launching tunnels.

Seems like Israel has run out of, or is critically low on interceptor missiles as they shoot from 2 to 10 at each incoming target. Iran's missile attack last year exposed Israel's weakness in this respect as it was most likely heavily monitored by Russian and Chinese ISR, vacuuming up every scrap of intelligence on Israeli operations and capabilities.

What you were seeing in the opening days were the result of carefully staged missile attacks that are designed to quickly deplete Israel's capabilities using older Iranian missiles systems. Now the newer, latest generation Iranian missiles are starting to come into play and there is absolutely no way of stopping them even if Israel has unlimited supplies of interceptors at hand

China is also rushing plane loads of missiles into Iran, most likely very modern systems capable of reaching out and touching warships far out at sea--meaning US naval vessels.


Israel is taking massive hits now with daily incoming waves of Iranian missiles--and it's embarrassing them, so much so that yesterday they imposed a total blackout on new organizations, prohibiting them from reporting on war damage or showing images of missiles attacks or interceptor launches. It seems like Israel is in fact a paper tiger, a matzo-ball republic with nuclear weapons it cannot use.

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Originally posted by Jefiner:

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Originally posted by MAXIMUS PANDAMONIUS:
If Trump bombs Iran,Iran will retaliate. How?
I don't want to speculate on a public forum.

aww, go ahead and speculate. Just as long as you don't mention Lardass's name.

Oh, and FTG.

Carry on.

Prayers up for D.O. Our motto is no negativity. He needs to decompress, and know that negativity causes pain to the psyche.

Israel is getting the fuck pounded out of it. Missile defenses largely useless against the newer, faster Iranian missile systems now being deployed. These are the latest images snuck out of Israel--attack on Haifa. Shoes are now on the other foot as their cities begin to look at lot like Gaza.

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Chinese war ship enters Persian Gulf.

They have systems similar to our AEGUS radars. At the very least they are studying and analyzing close our defense of Israel with ISR techniques. Also they are most likely providing Iran with up-to-day info concerning Israeli air operations heading their way. There are more Chinese ships that went up past the Hormuz straight and are probably doing the same.

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1 earthquake just hit
2025-06-20 mb5.1 Northern And Central Iran
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ALERT Will Robinson, ALERT

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1 earthquake just hit
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Let's piece some clues together.

US now says that Iran is sitting on enough shizzel to make a bomb--but hasn't decided to do so yet.

Earthquake now in Northern Iran--or nuclear test to make sure their gizmo works (100 kilo ton, 50 kiloton, thermo-nuclear?)


Israel now says if they have to go it alone to hit this underground missile base, they'll do it.


Soooooooo--given that Israel is the one starting this war with preemptive strikes, wouldn't this give Iran the reason to assemble some bombs with he shizzle-material they had in their alleged back-pockets? Sooooo....with this in mind, Israel now says they'll zozt the missile site by theirselves if necessary.

Ergo--nuke strike coming in soon possibly, because that the only way to even scorch the rocks and the high-impact concrete this facility is buried under (300 feet plus).

So when the canned sunshine is lit--what does Pakistan do when the fallout crosses their border? What does Russia and China do? How does Iran counter strike? Do they already have the sucker punch ready and waiting in some out of the way back ally where a container truck is parked next to an Iranian version of a Flying J?

And if so, do they only have one? Two? Three, stashed away and ready to fly? And what's the trigger point to give the go signal? Also would one of these weapons be targeted at the US naval base over there--or a carrier battle group (targeted with Russian and Chinese ISR).

I think Israel opened Pandora's Box and don't know how to close it now.

Rumor-Whem Ukraine went defunct,many years ago, it was rumored that Iran bought 10 nukes on the black market. That black market was huge.
Check out the movie, LORDS OF WAR, starring Nick Cage.

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Originally posted by Shinmen Takezo:

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1 earthquake just hit
2025-06-20 mb5.1 Northern And Central Iran
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35.3758° N 53.0699° E 2025-06-20 17:49:14 UTC 10.0 km mb5.1 Northern And Central Iran IRIS Event Page
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Let's piece some clues together.

US now says that Iran is sitting on enough shizzel to make a bomb--but hasn't decided to do so yet.

Earthquake now in Northern Iran--or nuclear test to make sure their gizmo works (100 kilo ton, 50 kiloton, thermo-nuclear?)


Israel now says if they have to go it alone to hit this underground missile base, they'll do it.


Soooooooo--given that Israel is the one starting this war with preemptive strikes, wouldn't this give Iran the reason to assemble some bombs with he shizzle-material they had in their alleged back-pockets? Sooooo....with this in mind, Israel now says they'll zozt the missile site by theirselves if necessary.

Ergo--nuke strike coming in soon possibly, because that the only way to even scorch the rocks and the high-impact concrete this facility is buried under (300 feet plus).

So when the canned sunshine is lit--what does Pakistan do when the fallout crosses their border? What does Russia and China do? How does Iran counter strike? Do they already have the sucker punch ready and waiting in some out of the way back ally where a container truck is parked next to an Iranian version of a Flying J?

And if so, do they only have one? Two? Three, stashed away and ready to fly? And what's the trigger point to give the go signal? Also would one of these weapons be targeted at the US naval base over there--or a carrier battle group (targeted with Russian and Chinese ISR).

I think Israel opened Pandora's Box and don't know how to close it now.

Right now, the situation in the middle east poses an existential threat to humanity. If any of the combatants do something stupid, a Pandora's box scenario will be child's play.

All the tanks and cans are topped off. Plenty of other stuff to make through most anything, need more potable water though.

Donny said two weeks, maybe, so we've got that.

We'll see.

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All the tanks and cans are topped off. Plenty of other stuff to make through most anything, need more potable water though.

Donny said two weeks, maybe, so we've got that.

That aftermarket Euro-can spout I ordered works better than the stock spouts with a tighter seal FYI.

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Originally posted by Shinmen Takezo:

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All the tanks and cans are topped off. Plenty of other stuff to make through most anything, need more potable water though.

Donny said two weeks, maybe, so we've got that.

That aftermarket Euro-can spout I ordered works better than the stock spouts with a tighter seal FYI.

Yeah, those were definitely nice.