Meaning of being a "zionist"?


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Zionism is a Jewish political movement based on the belief that the Jewish people cannot ever be fully accepted or integrated into non-Jewish majority societies and that we therefore need our own state where we can ensure we are the majority and our rights, beliefs, and security is enshrined by law and upheld by the monopoly on the legitimate use of violence that all states claim within their recognized borders. Although Zionism was contentious among Jews when it began in the late 1800s, it gained widespread acceptance in the face of growing antisemitism throughout the Christian and Muslim world. During that period, a growing number of Jews moved to Palestine - which was at the time a province of the Ottoman Empire. The original plan was for Jews to simply buy blocs of land from the locals and use that land to form their own insular communities that would gradually connect to each other. Jewish critics of Zionism were immediately aware of the likelihood that this would inflame local anti-Jewish sentiment, and it did - eventually flashing into open violence around the 1890s and escalating from there. During World War 1, Westernized Jewish Zionists recognized the opportunity for a windfall if the Allies won and negotiated what became the Balfour Declaration - in which the British Government signaled their support for a Jewish state in Palestine. Importantly, this negotiation did not include anyone from Palestine - you can imagine what they thought of it when they found out about it after the Great War. Palestinian hostility to the formation of a Jewish state - besides the fact that there were people living in the territory that was being proposed - was due to the British also buying Arab support against the Ottomans by promising them independence. This is already more than I meant to type, so I'll stop there. More on reddit.com

From Google:
What is Christian Zionism?

Christian Zionism is a belief held by some Christians that the modern state of Israel has a special significance in God's plan and that the return of Jewish people to the Holy Land is a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. This ideology often views the existence and prosperity of Israel as a precursor to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Core Beliefs:
Christian Zionists believe that the Jewish people are God's chosen people and that the land of Israel has been divinely promised to them. They see the modern state of Israel as a fulfillment of biblical prophecies found in the Old Testament.
Prophetic Significance:
Many Christian Zionists believe that the events surrounding Israel, including its founding in 1948, are significant markers in biblical prophecy and are related to the end times.
Support for Israel:
This belief system often translates into strong support for the state of Israel, including political, financial, and practical support.
Varied Perspectives:
While the core belief is consistent, the extent of support and interpretation of prophecy varies among Christian Zionists.
Historical Roots:
Christian Zionism has roots in 17th-century English Puritanism and has grown in prominence in the United States, particularly within conservative evangelical circles.

What we have is a mixture of biblical beliefs infused with political tenets which formed the basis for the nation state of Israel.

Ya know, I sat in a "christian" church yesterday and listened to someone speak about Israel being God's chosen people. He also mentioned the Body of Christ. But the emphasis was on Israel & the fact that America bombed Iran for them.
I left there feeling like a second-class citizen in the Kingdom of God.

There are two sections to the Bible. The old testament, which coincides with certain Jewish texts. This old testament depicts a god of rath and destruction. Eye for an eye kind of stuff.

If your church doesn't feature Jesus, and pushes God as a fire and brimstone figure, it's time to ask some questions.

The term Christian Zionist refers to Christians that adhere to old testament beliefs in regard to Israel. These folks, many of whom are Mormons are all over internet forums.

I don't get why you've put those 3 youtubes in this particular thread, shinmen.
And that is the most irritating music I've ever heard!

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Originally posted by sunny225:
Ya know, I sat in a "christian" church yesterday and listened to someone speak about Israel being God's chosen people. He also mentioned the Body of Christ. But the emphasis was on Israel & the fact that America bombed Iran for them.
I left there feeling like a second-class citizen in the Kingdom of God.

sunny, I posted a thread in Sea World 'Re: Zionism'

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Originally posted by MAXIMUS PANDAMONIUS:
There are two sections to the Bible. The old testament, which coincides with certain Jewish texts. This old testament depicts a god of wrath and destruction. Eye for an eye kind of stuff.

The New testament brings us Jesus, a person who exudes love, tenderness and, and mercy.

If your church preaches just about fire and brimstone, and not God's love, well, it's time to ask
why.

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Definition:

Zionism is Jewish nationalism,combined with biblical overtones.